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mdrs I want to just ask the members to type "question", and I'll call on them in turn to ask Ben a Question
mdrs Shall we start?
Verndog ok go
Fargen_Amplifica sounds good
mdrs O.K.
mdrs Ben, Do you play any instruments?
Fargen_Amplifica Yes...I play guitar,bass and keyboards in several bands...I also do sound design work for video games...
mdrs Do you have any formal musical training?
Fargen_Amplifica a little...I did the whole jazz band thing in high school..but i taught myself most of what i use today
mdrs What kind of bands are you playing in now?
Fargen_Amplifica I actually play in a pop group called "claire voyant" and also an ACDC tribute band called "The Jacks"
mdrs are you Angus or Malcolm?
mdrs Kidding....
mdrs that's cool
mdrs Now
Verndog question
mdrs How did you get interested in electronics and tube technology?
Fargen_Amplifica Angus...it took about a year or so to nail the bit
mdrs you are next Vern
mdrs I'll let you know vern
Fargen_Amplifica I started repairing my own vinatge amp gear because I had no other option at the time...$$$:>)
mdrs so, were your first amps vintage?? BTW...how old are you?
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Fargen_Amplifica No...I had a GK SS thing and peavey's when I was 12-16...then I traded some gear for my first great amp which was a VOX Cambridge reverb...I am 37 years old now
strategery Still going on?
mdrs OK, Vern, your question for Ben.....
Verndog what was your first really favorite tone from an amp, and did you use that as the basis to design your tonal structure? Your amps have that crean in the coffee distortion rather than skim milk in tea.
Verndog i like the sound
Fargen_Amplifica The Vox CR really inspired me to build my first amp clone which was a "spitfire" based design...I slowly tweaked it to fit my needs as I used it live and in the studio
mdrs follow up, Vern?
Verndog the players heard with them had the best tone in a blues weekend
Fargen_Amplifica Thanks for the kind words on my amp BTW
mdrs How and when did you get started building amps? And, what made you get into the business of amp design/building?
Verndog nice to talk at ya.. i need to go
mdrs Thanks for being here, Vern!
mdrs btw.......Vern played bass for Greg Howe, Ben.
Fargen_Amplifica I started it just as a hobby in 98 and did repair for local guys and friends...I eventually had enough interest to start doing it full time in 2000 and release a few models.
mdrs "in the day...."
mdrs How did you learn tube technology??
Fargen_Amplifica cool...take it easy Vern
Fargen_Amplifica I bought every book I could on the subject and I was lucky enough to have ROP electronics in high school which helped
mdrs No mentor??
Fargen_Amplifica I also had big help from a great man named Bruce Collins at Mission amps...he really was my unofficial mentor and really helped me get beyond the basics...such a smart guy!
mdrs You are obviously a student of some of the classic amps. Your models seem to be a cool mix of "clones" and originals????
mdrs Am I right?
Fargen_Amplifica Yes..I have rarely ever done straight clones unless I was hired to nail a sound...I just have tried to use my ears to fix inherent issues with some of the classics while throwing my little twists in here and there...
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strategery May I ask one question?
mdrs go ahead, Strat
strategery Thanks.....
strategery I've heard your amps are fantastic.
strategery Haven't played one yet.
strategery My question is this......
strategery What is the big difference between.....
strategery PTP, Hand wired amps....larger components.....
strategery and those on a PCB....
strategery When it comes to sound quality....
strategery and reliability?
strategery Thank you.
Fargen_Amplifica Same parts...it's just the construction methods that are different...
Fargen_Amplifica as far as tone...
Fargen_Amplifica PCB amp can sound great if they are designed well with double sided PCB and good parts...
mdrs follow up, strategery?
Fargen_Amplifica The biggest issue is surface mounted control post and such which can break the whole PCB with impact rendering the amp useless
strategery No....I'll need to try one of these fine amps.
strategery Thanks.
strategery That makes sense.
strategery I'm on the website now.
mdrs Ben, how large is your company? (how many employees do you have?)
Fargen_Amplifica most of the problems with PCB amps is cheap parts and transformers...
Fargen_Amplifica Including myself we have 3...we are very lean..lol
mdrs How is business these days?
Fargen_Amplifica We are always out 6-8 weeks with backlogged orders as well as repairs and mods....I am also busy with consultant design work like the new carvin Vai legacy 2 amp that will be released at NAMM next week
Dr._Ellwood Question"
mdrs is that Carvin amp your latest project?
mdrs you are on deck, Lee
mdrs And, did you work with Steve Vai directly on that?
Fargen_Amplifica Yes...I have worked with Steve Vai directly for 2 years on the amp and it is done now...he is very happy with it...
mdrs Steve's a pretty cool guy...........easy to work with?
Fargen_Amplifica Steve is a great guy...so mellow and personable... he made it easy for me to do the job i was hired to do...create a great amp for him...
mdrs cool
mdrs Lee, your question....
Dr._Ellwood Ben, we noticed the beautiful cabinet work on some of your natural finished amp cabinets, do you build your own or do you use a supplier
Fargen_Amplifica My brother Jeff @ J. designcabs.com does all our cabs...he is a master craftsman and a great guy as well..his work is the best in the biz as far as I am concerned..
mdrs follow up, Lee?
Dr._Ellwood that's for sure Ben!!
Dr._Ellwood done for now Doc
mdrs How do you accomplish the 100 hours burn in prior to delivery of your amps? And, what is the purpose of the burn in?
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Fargen_Amplifica The burn in helps all the high end caps/resistors/transformers we use settle into there correct spec which sounds so different vs hour #1...it is necessary for great tone
mdrs How do you do the actual burn in?
Fargen_Amplifica we actually just load the amp up with used bench tubes and let her run for 100 straight...
mdrs Ben, I've heard that you will build pretty much anything a customer wants, as far as amps goes....do you stick to your "line" of amps, or do you also do custom builds?
Fargen_Amplifica I have done many custom build in the last 10 years...so many i create confusion for some buyers;)I am starting to cut back on some of the custom work because i am so busy with other things that need to get done..right now i am quoting 9-12 month for any custom piece now...
mdrs What's your most popular model, currently?
Dr._Ellwood Question:
Fargen_Amplifica The Mini Plex MKII by far...the Mighty Plex MKII is next in line
mdrs Lee your question
Dr._Ellwood Ben back to the burn in period... how often do you have component failure in that time period?
Fargen_Amplifica That
Fargen_Amplifica that's what is so important...the bell curve states that most failures happen in the first 8 hours of operation
Dr._Ellwood yes!
Fargen_Amplifica i would rather have a failure in house to correct than send an amp that might fail at the customers location...but we use such high quality part's we don't have many failures
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Dr._Ellwood ok great Ben!! thanks.. done for now Doc
mdrs Any other questions for Ben?
Dr._Ellwood Yes..
mdrs go
Dr._Ellwood Ben how would you say your mini plexi likes effects pedals going right into the front end
Fargen_Amplifica I like many pedals in front of the MP....fuzz's clean boosts ect.but super high gain stuff would not be best because the mini has plenty of it's own gain on tap
Dr._Ellwood ok thanks Ben!!
mdrs Well, since dinner is on the table :P I'll say, on behalf of Lee, Craig, and I (I'm Don, BTW), as well as the members of The String Network, I'd like to thank you for your time. We really enjoyed having you. We will set up a thread on "The Guitar Forum" for follow up questions members may have for you. Please check in as often as you can!!
Fargen_Amplifica Sounds good...thanks!
Dr._Ellwood Yes and Ben could we have you back at some future date??
Dr._Ellwood a full transcript will be available later toight Ben...
mdrs Also, the transcript of this chat will be permanently posted on The String Network for all to see!
Fargen_Amplifica Sure...just set up a time and i would be happy to do this again...cheers!
mdrs THANK YOU BEN
Dr._Ellwood Thanks Buddy !!!! have a great evening
Fargen_Amplifica same to you!
Craig Should have the transcript up in about an hour.
Craig Thanks for coming Ben!
Dr._Ellwood Thanks Craig!!!