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Dr._Ellwood It’s time to start our Tungsten Amplifier interview with owner Adam Palow, Welcome Adam, members and guests! I hope we have a good turn out today, but being it’s still summer there is no way of knowing. Being that this is Adam’s second interview with us, we will ask him to give us a update on his current and future projects, new developments in the amp business and just a general overview of the business climate these days. We will let Adam make the first post and some general comments, then open up the Forum for members questions, I think we are all familiar with the format here so let’s get it going … Adam, how is everything and we are very glad to see you bank on The String Network Forums!!
Rampdog do tell Adam
TungstenAmp This one is a hybrid 25W Cortez/Cremawheat. A clone of a one-off I did a couple months ago.
strategery Nice!!
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Dr._Ellwood Adam is typing stand by guys ..thanks..
TungstenAmp Hello again. Current projects are the Crema What amplifier primarily. It is a 20 watt, 6v6/GZ34 based platform that has a nice smooth taper to the gain ramp up.
Dr._Ellwood great Adam.. hows the business going
TungstenAmp An extentsion of the 5E3 and 5E5 designs.
TungstenAmp Business has been slower than last year. I think that peoples expedable cash is a little tight right now, so that trickles down. I'm looking forward to the Nashville Amp Expo later this month and expect an uptick after that event. I usually do well when people can crank my amps and try them out.
Dr._Ellwood Questions for Adam... just type i have a question and stand by
strategery Randy...question.
mdrs question
Dr._Ellwood great Adam... im sure it will pick up...
Dr._Ellwood yes a question from strategery
Dr._Ellwood go strat
strategery Hi Adam...
Rampdog http://www.tungstenamp.com/amps.htm
strategery You know the Cortez I have.....
strategery How does it compare to the Crema Wheat?
strategery Back to you.
strategery By the way guys....my Tungsten amp ROCKS... :)
Dr._Ellwood :)
TungstenAmp Hey Randy. The 25W Cortez is based around 6L6 power tubes and the 50W Alnico T12N, so it has a very distinct 5E3/5E5 American sound. The Crema Wheat retains the American topology, but is based around the 6V6/GZ34 pairing and uses a Scumback M75 speaker for a British flavour on the output side of the amp.
Dr._Ellwood I have a question for Adam...8o
strategery Ahhh....I see.
strategery Thank you.
Dr._Ellwood ok now my question
Dr._Ellwood Adam I and Doc own old 1962 Fender Pro Amps... I have friends that love my amp... what would it take to clone one
Dr._Ellwood with the 15 inch speaker in a combo
Dr._Ellwood while hes typing .. we are taking check ins with questions for Adam
TungstenAmp Circuit-wise, it would not any more difficult that cloning any other transition/bf-era amps. The main thing would just to find the right size chassis and cabinet. I haven't spent much time doing the later Fender clones, so I am not sure what is commonly available, partswise.
Dr._Ellwood Ok .... do you build limited clones of any Fender type circut and speaker comliment
TungstenAmp If parts are available, I am usually willing to do custom replicas.
Dr._Ellwood ok very good.. we will keep that in mind
TungstenAmp And while I cut my teeth on BF Fenders, I will say that my heart is with the Tweed stuff.
Craig Question.
Dr._Ellwood ok very good! that is a real good place to put your efforts too actually
revolead Question.
Dr._Ellwood yes Craig has a question go Craig
Dr._Ellwood got u REVO
Craig Regarding your new Crema Wheat amp, how does it compare with the older, British amp? What are the main differences?
Rampdog Question
Dr._Ellwood got u Rampster
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TungstenAmp The tonality of the 18W Marshall can be a little on the ratty, more upper mid and treble side of things. It is the nature of the Beast. What the Cream Wheat does is retain the fullness generally associated with the tweed 5E3/5E5 but push it out through a Brit style speaker, so you get a nice blending of the two thanks to the added midrange of the M75 speaker.
Dr._Ellwood Go ... REVO!!!!
revolead I'm speculating here, but after looking at your lineup on your website, you seem to know a great deal about tweed Fender stuff
Dr._Ellwood Go Ramp and let Adam include yours in his post if he sees it...K
revolead so my question is in regard to that. I have a Fender Deluxe and i love it but i always noticed with the Fender tweed stuff it has more bass than the BF stuff. is there a reason for this in terms of construction or design?
Rampdog Adam, you said you like the Tweed Fenders... I have a NOS Blues Jr. Stock... Is there anything YOU would do to it and why?
TungstenAmp Revo - The 5E3 in particular uses large value coupling capacitors all the way across the board, which tends to result in a full (and somewhat bassy) response. As the designs progressed, some of the models started seeing .047 and .022 caps being used. I can't say for certain, but I'd guess this is an attempt to reduce distortion at the power tube stage, and perhaps voicing for the ceramic speakers that were coming into use at the BF-era.
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Rampdog Adam, you said you like the Tweed Fenders... I have a NOS Blues Jr. Stock... Is there anything YOU would do to it and why?
Dr._Ellwood all set REVO? or more?
revolead i have a short follow up
Rampdog sorry
Dr._Ellwood ok great go ahead while hes working on Ramps
TungstenAmp Rampdog - Tough question to answer. You could see some tonal benefit by having the smaller import capacitors replaced with some thing higher quality. This may net you a 15% benefit. Speaker swaps can also shift the tonality. Bassier, chime-ier, etc. IT is all about what -you- would like to hear.
Dr._Ellwood no prob im just trying to have him see two at once
revolead i back the bass way off in response to this. i suppose it would help to move it further from the wall, but otherwise, is there an inexpensive way to reduce some of the bass and increase the chime, like a speaker change or something?
revolead (and its cool ramp. no harm done.)
Rampdog :o)
strategery :P
Dr._Ellwood blame it on the Moderator LOL!!
Dr._Ellwood Adam is typing......
TungstenAmp revo - The first thing I would recommend would be a simple capacitor change. A swap from 0.1 to 0.047 in the preamp can make a big difference. You can do the same swap in the output section if needed. If that doesn't do it, you could start going to speaker swaps, of which there are many.
revolead (first time chatting with you guys too, so blame me for not knowing the decorum) lol
Rampdog damn engineers
Dr._Ellwood YEP!! LOL
revolead adam, is that something easily done or should i leave it to a pro?
Dr._Ellwood no RTFM to follow!
Rampdog :|
TungstenAmp I'd recommend a pro if you're not familiar with safe procedures. It doesn't happen often, but there are lethal voltages in the amps even when turned off and unplugged.
Dr._Ellwood Adam is typing a BIG ONE!!
revolead /privmsgto Dr._Ellwood RTFM?
revolead /privmsg RTFM?
Dr._Ellwood Reat The F..king Manual
Dr._Ellwood teehe
strategery hahahahaha
revolead okay thanks, adam. go ahead next person
Dr._Ellwood OK... all set REVO
revolead yup
Dr._Ellwood ok post that again RAMP
Rampdog he got me Lee
Dr._Ellwood oh he did OK ..
Rampdog thanks
Dr._Ellwood ok anymore questions for Adam
mdrs sure
strategery Follow up?
Dr._Ellwood Yep go go go strat
Craig Can Adam tell us a bit more about his new amp. Changes from some of his other works etc.
mdrs Lee, can you see me 8o
Dr._Ellwood yes doc
mdrs O.K.
Dr._Ellwood O:-D
Dr._Ellwood birthday boy!!
Craig I think you missed Don's last request for a question Lee.
Dr._Ellwood OH.. i didnt see that one sorry
Dr._Ellwood woops
Craig ;)
Dr._Ellwood post it Doc sorry
Dr._Ellwood he will see it now
mdrs Adam, have you put a 15" speaker in any of your amps?
TungstenAmp Craig - The Crema Wheat primarily is my effort to make a more versatile and gigworthy 5E3. One of the "features" of the 5E3 is that the volume jumps from "can't hear a thing" to "wow that is loud" at 2.5 on the volume. So the Crema Wheat rides the volume and gain taper very smoothly from 1 to about 8 or 9. Beyond that you are dialing in more grit.
TungstenAmp The Tone control adds gain above 7, just like on the 5E3, but it also functions on both channels.
Dr._Ellwood see now THAT is a huge imporvement!!!
Dr._Ellwood because that is so SO true on the 5E3
TungstenAmp I use a bigger output xformer to alleviate the chokepoint that a stock 5E3 has where the OT is at full saturation. While this is a huge part of the 5E3 sound, it is also why you can't hear one over a loud drummer.
Dr._Ellwood way more giggable!!!
Dr._Ellwood ok did you see Doc's question Adam
Dr._Ellwood Adam, have you put a 15" speaker in any of your amps?
TungstenAmp The power transformer is voltage corrected for a slightly smoother tone. Etc... I probably forgot a few other points. I used three different brands of capacitors on the board to voice this one.
Craig So this would allow your amp to be used in a wider range of gigs and gig sizes.
Dr._Ellwood Non mic'ing situations..
TungstenAmp Doc - I have built a 5E5-A using an original 1959 P15N , and have also done a 15" Mosaic with one of my T15Q speakers. I don't get many requests for the 15", which is odd considering how cool they do sound.
Dr._Ellwood OH YES if guys ONLY KNEW!!!!
TungstenAmp Craig - I believe so. The clean headroom available also allows it to be used it more situations where the 5E3 would be distorting. The overall response is similar to Randy's 25W Cortez, but with more 6V6 crunch.
Dr._Ellwood If someone want's to hear one cranked I have a nice clip for you Adam!!! that will do it!!!
Dr._Ellwood Adam is there a Tungsten Forum ??
Dr._Ellwood user Forum set up
TungstenAmp There is not. I'm not very tech savvy with board code. :D
Dr._Ellwood OK... well put a link to our Forum you have some pretty good fans here
Craig Feel free to hang out here Adam.
strategery Hey Adam....status on building the Reverb unit and the Marshall clone?
TungstenAmp Definitely. I appreciate the support from you guys.
strategery Oops...I jumped ahead. :-(
Dr._Ellwood bad strat!! 10 demerit points buddy
strategery hahahaha
Dr._Ellwood >:-D
TungstenAmp I have the parts here for the T-Verb and am just waiting for some custom circuit boards to come in so I can begin prototyping. The Marshall project is still a possibility. At the very least, I will clone this killer 1972 JMP50 for myself.
Dr._Ellwood OK!!! more questions guys ...after Strats question
strategery WOW...thanks!!
Dr._Ellwood OK WAIT!!!!!! how much will that reverb unit cost Adam
Dr._Ellwood is it a separate like the vintage Fender box
Dr._Ellwood in BROWN TOXEX !!!!! >:-D
TungstenAmp I'm hoping to keep them in the 750-800 range. They will be based (heavily) on the outboard Fender tanks.
TungstenAmp Brown tolex/wheat grille = no problem.
Dr._Ellwood yes ... and look like them too ..the brown with wheat grille!!!!
Dr._Ellwood 8o>:-D>:-D>:-D
strategery Rock-N-Roll!!!! :D
Dr._Ellwood hey Doc it's PRO AMP HEAVEN!!! O:-D>:-D>:-D
mdrs I love me those old "The Pros"
TungstenAmp I have a few minor changes I'd like to try an incorporate. We'll see how it goes. :D
Dr._Ellwood yep AND the out board SURF boxes
Dr._Ellwood improvements!!! to the Fender ..like what
strategery There's mine. [url=http://usera.imagecave.com/Strategery/Straterery1/randys3.JPG][/url]
strategery Crap.
TungstenAmp I'm going to try and set it up so trat you can switch output tubes, and may try to incorporate a litle extra gain that you can dial in or out. I haven't tried yet, so it may or may not work.
strategery [img]http://usera.imagecave.com/Strategery/Straterery1/randys3.JPG[/img]
strategery :P
TungstenAmp I am typing really poorly today. Sorry for all of these typos.
mdrs what's a few typos amoungst friends??
Dr._Ellwood Well I know one thing with the Tube Tape Echo front end ..it does wonders as a pre amp
Dr._Ellwood Ok any more questions for Adam
mdrs Did I miss details about a possible marshall clone type of model from you, Adam??
Dr._Ellwood We knew this was just a update from Adam ..so it will go shorter I'm sure
strategery Thanks Adam!! My amp rocks!! :)
TungstenAmp mdrs - Just an idea I have been toying with. I have a modded JMP50 that is incredible and have considered cloning it.
mdrs That might be fun!
Dr._Ellwood is that in a Blues Breaker style combo
Dr._Ellwood oh wait JMP..ok
TungstenAmp It is a metalface 1972. Very aggressive and has a unique non original OT that gives it a large, open sound.
Dr._Ellwood Ok im going to open this up for general chatter with Adam now.... we will transcribe the formal part of this and it will be on the transcripts link later... thanks for all the uupdates Adam we appreciate it buddy... Lee
mdrs I have an old 18 watt 2x12 "Bluesbreaker".........that one's tone is KILLER. Ever consider a clone of such an amp?
TungstenAmp Thanks, Lee. I appreciate the opportunity to talk shop again.
Dr._Ellwood our pleasure Adam...stick around ... we are just general now ... but please hang with us...
mdrs [IMG]http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/mdrs1/Marshall%20Combos/IMG_1191.jpg[/IMG]
strategery Check out this stereo combo!!
strategery [img]http://usera.imagecave.com/Strategery/Straterery1/randys4.JPG[/img]
revolead does anyone have any advice for dealing with apartments as far as playing and practicing?
revolead rockin setup randy
strategery Yeah...Keep a gun. :D
revolead lol done :)
revolead two actually
strategery hahaha
TungstenAmp mdrs - I did build an 18 watt prototype several years ago and it was a good amplifier, but my heart lies with the tweed amps for now. I do currently own a Hoaglad 18W and consider it the best of that variety.
mdrs My fav is a blackface Champ
mdrs Thanks, Adam
TungstenAmp Hoagland
revolead done have you ever played through a little 22w deluxe?
revolead dn*
revolead don*
revolead one from the blackface era specifically
mdrs I have every Deluxe from the TV Tweed to the blackface.......so, yes. I love them
strategery Nice. :)
Dr._Ellwood Yep me too REVO the are fantatic tone machines
mdrs Yes, I have two blackface Deluxes, one is a reverb
Craig When you clone amps, how much does using new parts, compared to the old, original parts, effect the sound?
mdrs they are wonderful amps, very versatile
TungstenAmp I must say that the thread a couple weeks back about the 1955 Bassman got me pretty excited about that circuit. I may have to build myself one before the end of the year.
strategery Nice.
strategery 4/10....right?
mdrs I love my '56 Bassman!!
Dr._Ellwood I played on for years!! that are great amps
mdrs Adam, I use The Klon in front of virtually every amp, and love it. Somehow, it doesn't seem to work well with that Bassman. I wonder why???
Dr._Ellwood O:-D
Dr._Ellwood 8o
TungstenAmp Craig - I think if you're going to invest the money in vintage amp parts, the speaker is probably where you'll achieve the most gains for your dollars invested. A nice vintage Jensen can do as much for your project as a good set of NOS tubes.
mdrs The Klon is amazing in front of literally every other amp I have. But, I don't think that the Bassman likes it??
Dr._Ellwood have you really tweeked that Klon Doc??? you know the old treble control thing
Dr._Ellwood 8o8o8o
TungstenAmp I'm not sure. The input section differs slightly from the 5E7/5F4, that may account for it.
Dr._Ellwood I bet the Klon would love the Tungsten's
mdrs I've played around with it a bit..........I need to work it some more. Usually I get The Klon perfect for any amp right away. I need to work it some more..........which, with that amp, I'm more than happy to do!!
mdrs :P
Dr._Ellwood O:-D
strategery Adam....how are your customers liking your use of Weber speakers compared to others? Just curious.
mdrs Adam, you have a small practice amp in your line, right?? Similiar to a Champ??
Dr._Ellwood Adam have you ever used a Klon in front of your amps
strategery Machine gun questioning...you gotta love it. :D
Dr._Ellwood :P
mdrs LOL
revolead sorry guys downstairs for a min
revolead anyway, yeah I love those deluxes too
mdrs Adam will be stuttering soon........
Dr._Ellwood come back FAST
strategery hahahaha
revolead my fav amp ever is still a 68 silverface
TungstenAmp Strat - Most people that have owned the original Jensens are very happy with the custom speakers that Weber makes for me. I'm a stickler for authenticity and when I heard the T12Q, I knew they had nailed it.
revolead i covet it (a friend owns it)
strategery Cool...thanks, just curious.
mdrs Weber makes good stuff
TungstenAmp mdrs - I do build 8" and 12" 5F1 inspired amps.
Dr._Ellwood you covet your neighbors Silver face 8o
mdrs Revo asked about an apartment/practice amp, and that's what I'd recommend, for sure
revolead the 5F1?
TungstenAmp Doc - I do not own a Klon, but have played and listened to a few good examples. Some of my customers use them regularly with the Cortez and seem to dig the combination.
mdrs yes.....Champ like
mdrs Adam, I've got to head out for dinner. I wanted to thank you for your time. We enjoyed chatting with you!! Please don't be a stranger. I'd love to see you on the forum more. And, we will continue to be great supporters of your most excellent amps!!
strategery :D I'll will you my walker.
Dr._Ellwood Yes you are!!
Rampdog Thanks Adam
TungstenAmp Thank you.
revolead well i dunno. the guys my age make me wonder sometimes.
strategery Thanks Adam!!
revolead thanks adam.
Rampdog enlightning as always
TungstenAmp I was just sitting here trying to decide if I am a geezer or not at 35.
Craig Thanks Adam. Was there anything further you wanted to add about your new amp?
TungstenAmp Craig - Thanks. I should mention that it is cream tolex and wheat grille. The photos on the website are of a different amp, need to get some shots of the new model.